Maybe that is what an addition of allies should be called; an oddness.
At the St Neots Primarchs we play a tad differently to most clubs I guess. We don't like fixed list leagues. They get boring. All through the history of the club we have played changable lists. You know your opponent's codex, sometimes you know the mission in advance, and you build lists around it. Initially it helped offset the boredom of fixed lists and it helped the FLGS that we had at the time. It works for us. Pick up games, well, that is up the individual players.
Anyway, to make a long story even longer, we had something odd pop up last week. I meant to post about it and forgot until tonight. Player A turned up with a Grey Knights list expecting to face Chaos Daemons. His opponent turned up with minimal daemons and a maxed out allies block of Chaos Space Marines. Player A got crushed. He wasn't upset about it or anything but he did feel that it was a tad unfair as his opponent was supposed to be playing daemons.
It got me thinking that maybe next time around I may have to set a 50% of points limit on allies for this reason. But that isn't what I am posting about. I'm curious about a couple things and wondering what you all out there thing and what your experiences are.
1. Do you play allies yourself? yes, no, and why?
2. Do you like it when an opponent brings allies? yes, no, why or why not?
3. How would you view it if an opponent turned up with minimal FoC and the rest of an army made up of allies?
In this case it seems a bit odd that the player would say they were playing daemons but barely have any. Since these type of games people build to fight the list they know they are playing against it seems like they are being decietful. In most other cases though it wouldn't matter because you would build to fight anyone. I think allies can be fun, but I like whoever is using them to make it make sense (If you are playing inperial guard allied with orks I'd like to see a pretty good story behind it). My brother plays Grey Knights and Imperial Guard, and I actually think it's fun when he allies them. You should be able to adjust your tactics to fight different styles. At least for me it makes the game more interesting, and more challenging. I would be a bit annoyed if my brother said he was bringing grey knights and showed up with 10% grey knights and 90% IG though (or vice versa) since he would know exactly what I was bringing.
ReplyDeleteI don't mind allies if the fluff supports it like chaos sm and daemons or eldar and dark eldar. It is when armies like necrons and grey knights show up.that it bugs me.
ReplyDeleteInappropriate allies bugs me as well. It should always make sense though the allowed combos on the allies chart don't help.
Delete1. Do you play allies yourself? yes, no, and why? Yes, it adds some flavour
ReplyDelete2. Do you like it when an opponent brings allies? yes, no, why or why not? yep as long as its not being stupid, (like 90% being allies)
3. How would you view it if an opponent turned up with minimal FoC and the rest of an army made up of allies?
Its a joke, I would be tempted to not play, I turn up to play a army and its not that army, it basically saying, you can play any codex instead of the one you claim you are playing, I think 50% is a very good idea that should be brought it asap :)